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Title: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: JCM on August 16, 2015, 09:46:10 AM
I am considering entering this field of work, but am wondering if my idea of a business model will make it in the big scheme of things.

As Maxime mentions in "Companion Test — Are you straight male companion material?"
Here’s a simple test that will tell you if you are suited to be a professional male companion for women. It has been designed by a companion and a patron and reviewed by members of this forum. Each of the following questions will determine if you have what it takes.

For any comments, please post in its inception thread: Pointed questions to men who what to break into the companion business (http://conciergedumonde.com/forum/index.php?topic=1384.0)
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2. Do you want to have sex with lots of different women?

You are in the wrong business if that is your goal. Some women might not even be interested in having sex with you. For a lot of them, sex will not even be their first goal.

I am not interested in being with many women. I tend to fall under the other points he mentions in this post, in that I enjoy (and tend to be enjoyed) in the company of educated women, and like spending time with the fairest of the fairer sex.
I have browsed many of the How To posts and What (Not) To Do posts on the forum over the last several months in addition to reading through many of the gents personal sites and blog postings.
I have seen mention of short coffee dates strictly for conversation all the way up to being flown to another state for a several day engagement.

To get to my point, how often is a companion's company sought after for strictly platonic relations - Is there room for someone to make it in the field with that as my sole intended patroness?

*Admin, being that I have not been admitted to the other side of the forum, or the OP has been deleted, I selected to make a new topic. If this should be in the cited board, please move it and advise me thereof. (But I would also request access to that portion of the boards)
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Maxime Durocher on August 16, 2015, 12:05:46 PM
To get to my point, how often is a companion's company sought after for strictly platonic relations - Is there room for someone to make it in the field with that as my sole intended patroness?

I'll speak only from a strictly personal point of view: Not very often.

As a rule, it takes a lot of work to get your first client if you're offer includes sex, and there after, very few of us can live of its revenue. Without sex in the balance, my guess is that you'd need to be even more dedicated to the idea of being companion to keep on doing it. I've seen a lot of guys wanting to be a companion including sex and giving up before seeing their first client as an independent. It's a lot of efforts and time.
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: NoGNoG on August 16, 2015, 05:42:08 PM
JCM - In the U.S. all companionship has sex off the table and one should be careful to not have such on the services provided list.  As an independent you may certainly offer strictly platonic escorting services.  I have engaged a few through the years when tossed into a quickie business engagement.

For example; I am leery of being tossed into anything I did not actively put myself into. Such as not knowing a single sole and duty calling to make an appearance for the company.  To offset the lack of trust of strangers, I would hire a male escort from a reputable agency, where their sexuality made no difference and was never discussed, to keep me settled within an engagement.  He would have been hired to do the breaking of ice within the business environment I have stated.

Escort services are priced completely differently from companionship.  Price ranges are on a sliding scale between escorts, exotic dancers, male companions, and male straight companions. Price quoted for time is generally charged to accommodate talents, skills, and experience within a period of time.  The straight male companions I have met in CdM are on the high end of a scale based on the talent, skill and experience I have requested to be used within my time.  

I have a very nice platonic relationship with my best male friend from college and my postal carrier.  What would set you apart from what I am already being provided for freely?

NoG
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Slovestravel on August 17, 2015, 03:45:23 AM
Is there room for someone to make it in the field with that as my sole intended patroness?


I really don't think so. As a hobby where you may get 2 or 3 jobs a year? Maybe. Anything else, not a chance.
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: NoGNoG on August 17, 2015, 12:30:31 PM
Is there room for someone to make it in the field with that as my sole intended patroness?


I really don't think so. As a hobby where you may get 2 or 3 jobs a year? Maybe. Anything else, not a chance.

 /cheekkiss

Succinct Slovestravel.
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: JCM on August 17, 2015, 12:49:19 PM
Firstly a note, it was brought to my attention that "fairest of the fairer sex" could mean that I planned to be selective in my clientele, that is not the case; it was intended only as a compliment to the ladies of this forum and with the intent that any lady seeking my services is the fairest of them all in my eyes.

Thanks to everyone for the kind words, I am not trying to make a career of this, it is simply a venue to do something I enjoy and tend to do already, and be compensated at the same time.

@NoGNog, I guess I misused, or did not see the difference in use, of companion and escort. It would seem that I intend to supply a product closer to that of an escort. As for what I have that your other friends do not; I am in my mid 20s which appeals to some and is appalling to others, I am a fairly educated young man (not to imply that others are not), and I am a trained country dancer.
This makes me ideal, IMO, for a woman who would want a younger "toy" with her at a company event or a younger lady that doesn't want to hire someone like her father as an escort to a wedding. I've also been exposed to women who choose not to ask a male acquaintance to escort them as they do not want to give off the impression of an attraction and thus avoid that sticky situation altogether.

These are certainly not all encompassing, and there are also women who would see my service as a waste of time and money, but that is with any business model.

I have not intended to step on any toes or come across as defensive. I apologize if my word choice gives that effect.
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Liquidfyre on August 17, 2015, 07:32:49 PM
Hi, JCM.

I think that to NoGNoG's point, there are men in our lives or on the periphery of our lives, who could fill the role in the scenarios presented, without incurring a financial cost for the service.  At the present, I would not be interested in seeking someone for merely intellectual stimulation or to accompany me.

That said, there may be women out there who seek what you offer. I could imagine older women (much older, 70's onward) who would delight in male company (though you might wind up with a few pinches to the rear. Though if popular television is to be believed, even those women are willing to go beyond), that does not rise to the level of intimacy sought after by many/most of the women here.  It's still fraught with danger. Emotional, mental and intellectual intimacy are just as powerful and draining as physical intimacy and probably more so. Will you be able to sustain multiple relationships to a degree that your patrons feel they receive an adequate ROI?

Beyond older women, perhaps women who as you say, strictly want someone to show off or who can hold his own in conversation with her colleagues. You run the risk of not developing a friendship and feeling "used", as though you are a pretty toy, taken off the shelf, unwrapped, paraded around and then returned to your shelf until the next occasion.

I wish you luck.

When I am 70 I plan on testing out the new hips and knees in the most delicious way.
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Maxime Durocher on August 17, 2015, 09:02:26 PM
When I am 70 I plan on testing out the new hips and knees in the most delicious way.

Sounds like fun!
LOL
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: NoGNoG on August 17, 2015, 10:27:13 PM


When I am 70 I plan on testing out the new hips and knees in the most delicious way.

Sounds like a very good plan.   /cheerleader    I'm following it, too.
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Quinn on August 18, 2015, 07:32:03 AM
The only women over 70 I know of who aren't interested in sex are the ones who have been married too long.  :P
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Tealight on August 18, 2015, 07:42:21 AM
The only women over 70 I know of who aren't interested in sex are the ones who have been married too long.  :P

 /ROTFL
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Liquidfyre on August 18, 2015, 09:45:32 AM
The only women over 70 I know of who aren't interested in sex are the ones who have been married too long.  :P

 /LOL

I stand corrected. That is going to narrow your pool further, JCM. I do think there may be a segment of the already small market that your service could appeal to, but as Maxime noted, that is going to be a lot of work for you, in order to make it worthwhile. I'm not sure whte you would market yourself or hoe you'd price your services. Ladies, IF you were interested, howuch would you seriously pay, knowing how much you pay for the time of a companion?
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: NoGNoG on August 18, 2015, 12:58:14 PM
The only women over 70 I know of who aren't interested in sex are the ones who have been married too long.  :P

 /LOL

I stand corrected. That is going to narrow your pool further, JCM. I do think there may be a segment of the already small market that your service could appeal to, but as Maxime noted, that is going to be a lot of work for you, in order to make it worthwhile. I'm not sure where you would market yourself or how you'd price your services. Ladies, IF you were interested, how much would you seriously pay, knowing how much you pay for the time of a companion?
Professional male companions were called "walkers" in the 20th century and maybe even before.  Maybe those guys were platonic with the ladies on their arm.  I could not imagine Jackie O being only platonic with Maurice Templeton who was always called her "companion".
 
Currently, I have my male companions.  I'm really looking to pay serious money for a gardener.  

To Quinn - You are so witty  /thumbsup
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Slovestravel on August 18, 2015, 02:00:04 PM
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Ladies, IF you were interested, howuch would you seriously pay, knowing how much you pay for the time of a companion?

Probably $50 - $75 per hour, depending on the looks, intelligence and conversational skills of the companion. I think to have a minimum of three hours would also be fair.

Perhaps for my dream date $100 per hour. For this I'd expect someone very good-looking, 30 - 40 years, sharp mind, great wit, beautifully entertaining, well versed in world affairs and international politics, a good dancer (ballroom, Latin American) and multilingual.

What do other ladies think? Liquidfyre?
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: NoGNoG on August 18, 2015, 02:23:15 PM
That's fair.
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Quinn on August 18, 2015, 03:31:23 PM
While this is not a service I'd be interested in, if I were, I agree with S. $50 to $75 per hour seems reasonable.
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Liquidfyre on August 18, 2015, 04:00:25 PM
I'd agree with the rates slovestravel and Quinn have noted. Now, are ancillary expenses included, such as tux rental? (And a slight t/j, but do companions deduct these work expenses?).

JCM, your thoughts on that rate?  I hope you don't think that we are mocking or being insincere (tone is lost when writing). I'm genuinely curious to see if you can make a go of this. Do you have a website yet?  Are you limiting yourself to your local area?  Have you given thought to how you will navigate the dance of expectations (will women expect certain services?). 
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Tealight on August 18, 2015, 09:44:42 PM
I agree that the rates seem reasonable and actually do think there would be some interest (though, It would be a niche in an already niche market.  I've already told you, but I think they key for you might be your dancing skills. 

A few more things to think about:

Be prepared for clients who might think, "oh, he's just saying that because he has to..."

Would you offer cuddles and affection or would it be strictly conversation? If the former, you would want to think about how you would present that to your client so that signals don't get crossed into them expecting more and then feeling "cheated" or hurt whet doesn't transpire. 

I echo what LiquidFyre said about emotional, mental, and intellectual intimacy.  I obviously can't speak for all female clients, but I'm willing to bet that you can expect a client to desire those three things, platonic date or not. 
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: JCM on August 19, 2015, 02:17:53 PM
As it turns out, someone I know in the dancing world was talking to a friend of mine recently about renting him out as a wedding date, so I may have a lead in that respect.
For multi-day trips, I wouldn't be opposed to cuddling but would have established boundaries as Maxime does on his website.
I was thinking more of a base price to cover tux and travel within a given distance (say 100 miles) and then an additional 25-50/hour for the duration of the event.

On the emotional connection, I am the type of person that lots of people, men and women, will open up to and feel at ease around; I believe I manage those relationships well, and don't foresee anything too drastically different in what I should encounter.

I have been toying with a website, I've written up most of my text, and may well post it here before publishing a site, to get everyone's opinion. Other than the realm of time and travel cost, I wouldn't be opposed to traveling as long as I could fit it in my schedule and was being fairly compensated for it.

Thanks everyone for the thoughts and questions!
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Debra on August 21, 2015, 09:08:22 AM
I was reading some oooooold threads and someone mentioned a site called RentAFriend.  So that may be something for you to check out, JCM.

Personally, I look for companions who offer both platonic dates and something more intimate.  I don't want to commit to the intimacy portion right off the bat, so I'd book for a social date and then if things go in the right direction and the chemistry is there.... go for the -ahem- upgrade. ;-)

Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: varjakpaul on September 03, 2015, 12:59:40 PM
This is such a fascinating conversation, as it combines the two points that attract me most to the field. On the one hand, there are the obvious, bionic-hip-straining-activities; but on the other, there’s a lovely, intellectual seduction that is, to me, equally as fun.

Sure, we all want someone with whom to verbally Salsa, but let’s face it: those relationships wander in and out of our lives regularly for free. What comes at a premium, and what, I think we’re all here for (correct the newbie if he misspeaks), is that balance between the two. No?   
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Maxime Durocher on September 03, 2015, 04:44:43 PM
Sure, we all want someone with whom to verbally Salsa, but let’s face it: those relationships wander in and out of our lives regularly for free. What comes at a premium, and what, I think we’re all here for (correct the newbie if he misspeaks), is that balance between the two. No?   

I think a lot of women want a good dose of both, but as always there are exceptions to the rule.
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: varjakpaul on September 03, 2015, 07:09:29 PM
Sure, we all want someone with whom to verbally Salsa, but let’s face it: those relationships wander in and out of our lives regularly for free. What comes at a premium, and what, I think we’re all here for (correct the newbie if he misspeaks), is that balance between the two. No?   

I think a lot of women want a good dose of both, but as always there are exceptions to the rule.

Fair enough. Some people are looking for a balance of salsas and some people just want salsa, straight-up. Extra spicy;)
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: Anthony Asanti on September 11, 2015, 01:28:29 PM
I agree that most clients will want to see companions for intimate and social occasions. If you are looking only to offer your services for social occasions try rent-a-gent or some its competitors.

 
Title: Re: Purpose of Seeing a Companion
Post by: TMC4women on March 11, 2016, 02:52:42 AM
Interesting to read all posts here. The straight male escort market is a niche market indeed. Almost 100% of our bookings include intmicy and sex. Just social dates with a straight male companion is not realistic, there's no demand for that. This is one of the many preconceptions.

We do lots of media, like TV in the UK, Germany and Holland, and we always get the same questions. During the past years we even have made a long list of questions and answers in 3 languages that we often use for media. It's unbelievable how many preconceptions exist. And they all are the same!!! LOL. Reason: movies and documentaries are created behind desks without any knowledge of the real high class straight male escort market. The format makers... /ROTFL Just when it's almost finished, media and film producers asks us for advice and/or interviews. The only goal for them is to earn money and therefore they are looking for confirmation of all the preconceptions. Meaning their "format" should not be destroyed with the truth.

Bottom line is we always enjoy doing media, and explain how things work. So if you have any questions just let us know  /thumbsup

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