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« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2013, 11:19:38 PM »
Quote from: James Craig on November 07, 2013, 03:10:07 PM
I personally have no knowledge of agencies so I'm unsure which one's are legit or not.

I do.  ::)
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I would imagine that one of the reasons women choose independent over agency is the opportunity to figure each other out prior to any meeting.  I'm curious to know what kind of dynamic, trust, and confidence that fosters?  
It doesn't.  From experience the dynamic is the complete opposite.  I spend most of the evening being continually disappointed.  Then questioning myself on my decision to go through an agency.  There is no feeling of sharing time only of business being completed within a block of time.  I keep the same protection barriers up as I do with everyone.

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I'm sure that legitimate agencies have some benefits, especially to newer companions just starting out, but the trust and comfort factor generally come from lots of dialogue before, and not at the meeting.
Yes, the differences between agency and independent is the same as an employee for a company or being a independent contractor.  There are pros and cons.  The agency man is on agency time.  No negotiation of services, the agency lists them effectively. The difference, for me, is I always feel as if I am leading and watching his time.  I am not completely comfortable the whole time scheduled with an agency man.  He is an employee and not equal to me.  I'm management.  Hard to explain how the dynamic is set in my mind.  I'm already working in a daily environment where I am in charge.  An agency man does not take me completely out of this mindset.
    
An independent is exactly that, independent.  I already perceive we're on equal footing. An independent is "in charge" of our time and everything is available for discussion.  Independent to me equals quality time. I feel as we both have made an investment to how high the quality will be.  This recipriocity gives me the reassurance of non-judgement. I am able to BE.  To BE is emotionally precious to me.  To place my trust with an independent allows for emotional joy who enjoys the sharing of such as much as I do to share.  I absolutely will not share the real me with a man I do not feel is on equal standing with me.

Aren't there others here in our community that have some of the same perceptions I do?
 
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« Reply #16 on: November 08, 2013, 08:24:09 AM »
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NoGNoG: I feel as we both have made an investment to how high the quality will be.  
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« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2013, 08:26:02 AM »
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NoGNoG: I feel as we both have made an investment to how high the quality will be.  

 in other words strictly a business transaction.
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« Reply #18 on: November 08, 2013, 08:26:49 AM »
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NoGNoG: I feel as we both have made an investment to how high the quality will be.  

Yes. The agency escort doesn't choose which clients he will see - they are assigned to him. An independent can pick and choose if he pleases. Therefore, he will see clients he thinks he'll enjoy spending time with. If he finds out he was wrong, he can refuse to see that client again. Knowing that he has chosen to see me again and again, helps me relax and be myself. I couldn't do that with a man I thought was with me only for the money, in other words strictly a business transaction.

(I apologize for the two posts above. There was some kind of bug that wouldn't let me post my whole message, or delete those two afterward.)
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« Reply #19 on: November 08, 2013, 10:06:29 AM »
Quote from: NoGNoG on November 07, 2013, 11:19:38 PM
Aren't there others here in our community that have some of the same perceptions I do?

I think most of the ladies that are regularly posting these days thinks the same way you do.

I'd be curious to get the opposite viewpoint. I'm sure on the lady side, there's a certain convenience. On the escort side, there's the no-hassle approach to getting clients. I'd like to know how a lady who likes agency deals with the no communication aspect and the potential flop, or any other negative aspect.
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« Reply #20 on: November 08, 2013, 10:18:14 AM »
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As an example, two of the famous Cowboys for Angels guys, who are on the cable show Gigolos have been arrested recently on criminal charges. One for a violent felony.


I am curious which two Cowboys have been arrested for criminal charges? I watch that show and find it fascinating and interesting.
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« Reply #21 on: November 08, 2013, 10:43:51 AM »
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Chase: I am curious which two Cowboys have been arrested for criminal charges?

Steven Gantt  for  “Open and Gross Lewdness,” which in Arizona could mean several different things, ranging from simple public sex to assault that stops short of rape. No more details were given.

Jimmy Clabots for  “Felony Domestic Violence”  for severely beating up his girlfriend. I understand that he has left the show.

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« Reply #22 on: November 08, 2013, 10:46:10 AM »
I think it should be possible for a male companion to find a good escort agency to work for. However, I get that it is a challenge to find such an agency.

Times are changing and as straight male companions become less taboo (or a threat)  agencies should change with the times.  Creating  a good atmosphere for their talent, as well as making money for themselves, should be key. I understand that some challenges might present themselves with the above mentioned scenario but in time could be ironed out.

Quite some time ago, I worked as an escort and was signed with an agency.  I have to say it was a great agency to work for as long as I was honest, kept my nose clean, and acted like a professional. And I did. Once the owner trusted me I pretty much did as I pleased. He let me talk with the clients, if they were new, and never ever pressured me to take a call that I didn't want to take. And although, it wasn't discussed he knew that I saw clients on my own. Most escorts who are signed up with an agency eventually see clients on their own. As long as the contracted escort is reliable, clean and responsible and has built up trust with the agency, agencies should allow this because as I mentioned, it is going to happen anyway.

Just my two cents. 

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« Reply #23 on: November 08, 2013, 10:48:25 AM »
Quote from: Quinn on November 08, 2013, 10:43:51 AM
Steven Gantt  for  “Open and Gross Lewdness,” which in Arizona could mean several different things, ranging from simple public sex to assault that stops short of rape. No more details were given.

I know of two ladies who had major trouble with him.
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« Reply #24 on: November 08, 2013, 10:59:28 AM »
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Quote from: Quinn on November 08, 2013, 10:43:51 AM
Steven Gantt  for  “Open and Gross Lewdness,” which in Arizona could mean several different things, ranging from simple public sex to assault that stops short of rape. No more details were given.

I know of two ladies who had major trouble with him.


Other than firing the escorts that cause problems, I wonder how "legally", the Agency owners deal with these type of issues. Any thoughts on that?
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« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2013, 12:17:10 PM »
Sorry to be a pest but anyone has any advice on my questions, how to find genuine agencies? of course massive upfront fees a "guaranteed work" are scam... can they be just found with a Google search? Googling male escort just brings up a lot of scams Lol
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« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2013, 12:24:38 PM »
I live in UK btw so Cowboys 4 Angels wouldn't cover here. Thanks for your help
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« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2013, 05:16:59 PM »
Based on economy 101, market demand is driving the real business and supply. I think the demand for straight male companionship is negligible compared to other escort services, thus, even the agencies won't even care this portion much from making money perspectives. Consequently, being a staight male companion, it may not make much difference between being independent or working for an agency in terms of chance of getting clients.

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« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2013, 07:04:03 PM »
I'm biased. But my guess is that an agency satisfies the client who is looking for the novelty, one night stands or even a series of such. Companions can offer this experience, but I think that companions can and do offer women so much more. It's only a matter of time before whatever stigma might be attached to seeing a sex provider is replaced by a certain cachet for having the means and the ability to live the life we want.

I mean, think about it.

Many of us tried to do the super-woman thing: family, husband, career. To our detriment, as we lost touch with ourselves. Maybe, rather that having it all, we can have what we want. Some of us might choose to supplement our lives with companions, not unlike supplementing our diets with vitamins.

Vitamins enhance our nutrition, and companions enhance our sense of self. It's going to catch on, eventually everyone is going to covet what we few have discovered.
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« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2013, 07:25:03 PM »
Quote from: Kat O'9Tales on November 08, 2013, 07:04:03 PM
I'm biased. But my guess is that an agency satisfies the client who is looking for the novelty, one night stands or even a series of such. Companions can offer this experience, but I think that companions can and do offer women so much more. It's only a matter of time before whatever stigma might be attached to seeing a sex provider is replaced by a certain cachet for having the means and the ability to live the life we want.

I mean, think about it.

Many of us tried to do the super-woman thing: family, husband, career. To our detriment, as we lost touch with ourselves. Maybe, rather that having it all, we can have what we want. Some of us might choose to supplement our lives with companions, not unlike supplementing our diets with vitamins.

Vitamins enhance our nutrition, and companions enhance our sense of self. It's going to catch on, eventually everyone is going to covet what we few have discovered.

 /thumbsup Where's the "like" button?
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