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John Oh
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« on: May 08, 2011, 02:47:49 AM »

A client contacted me a couple of days ago with the unhappy news that another male escort operating in Sydney (Australia) had copied some large chunks of text from my website and dropped it almost completely unaltered into the home page of his own site:

http://www.your-gigolo.com/

I was surprised and more than a little upset.  Not least because it was so blatant (and at least when viewed through Firefox, sooo badly broken!). 

I have sent the escort in question an email requesting that he remove my material, so we will see what happens.

I suppose that this is the downside to our industry becoming more popular and "mainstream".  There will always be guys out there who aren't prepared to do the hard yards and will just rip others off. 

I don't know of an easy way to police this sort of thing other than resorting to regularly Googling key phrases from my site (which I have done since this issue came to my attention and on the first search found someone else - now defunct it seems - who had ripped off some of my text, again word for word).


It's easy to look at this sort of thing and say that it's not such a big deal, but when you have laboured for days creating a website and put your heart and soul into it, it's disappointing to have someone just take your work and pass it off as their own. 

Has anyone else here experienced this problem?  If so, I would be interested to hear your story.

John.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2011, 06:21:57 AM »

Check out dmca.com and a good article that was just posted http://www.geishadiaries.com/home/how-to-protect-your-content-from-thieves.html
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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2011, 02:00:12 PM »

At the start it was a constant battle and all you can realistically do is write to the "thief" and ask him to remove it.

It used to bug the crap out of me but there's little I can do apart from the above so now it's less of an issue.
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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2011, 02:21:24 PM »

I agree.  We've had this happen to our corporate website too.  It makes me mad but besides sending them a 'cease and desist' letter/email there really is nothing else you can do.

BTW... It's broken in Chrome too.  ;)
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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2011, 05:38:45 PM »

Its pretty bad huh !
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« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2011, 02:35:16 AM »

Amanda Brooks was just speaking about this same incident a couple of days ago on her blog After Hours http://www.texasgoldengirl.com/afterhours/escort-plagarism/


I honestly believe its an unfortunate endeavor a companion runs across from time to time, but I see it in the same light of when people steal online photos of men and women and use it as their facebook profile (I had this happen to a female friend of mine).

Because the sex industry (well in the US at least) is not a real regulated industry as of yet... its hard to actually police said individuals. And I find it easier to just ASK the companion who's work you may admire for help.

Case in point Rob from the UK (http://www.malecityescort.co.uk/) I loved the way he wrote his FAQ page, and asked him if I could edit a version of it to my liking and use a copy of it on my site. He gave me the green light, only requesting he could use an endeavor of mine in the near future. Problem solved.

I understand the frustration (especially since its $$$ out of your pocket because this other gentleman IS using YOUR words to garner revenue for himself), but on the other side... people download and illicit music and movies illegal online everyday now.

This may sadly become the new practice.


I guess you could place a disclaimer on your site "All wording on site of creative mind and any duplication of said words deemed illegal" but then what?
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« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2011, 03:53:55 PM »

That is very discusting behaviour!
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« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2011, 03:35:00 AM »

Anyone stealing my stuff is writing his suicide note. Unfortunately I would be the one to die laughing.

All I can suggest is you make your content so personalised no one in his write mind would / could use it.

The thing is if a site content does not match the emails the client will be turned off. Unfortunately that will ahve negative consequences to real people like John. People will wonder who is the real me etc.

No solution to suggest other than amending your site accordingly.

No fake orgams allowed on John's site.

Heh, so someone else is GUARATEEING the female orgasm. Chutzpah n'est pas?

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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2011, 04:43:17 PM »

Hi All,

Firstly, thanks for the feedback above.  All appreciated, and it inspired me to investigate other options. 

I have progress to report:

1. I have discovered that most ISP have a copyright infringement policy and a mechanism for reporting clients who are infringing someone else's copyright material.

2. It was a matter of 10 minutes research to determine which ISP "Andrew" was using, and find their take-down policy. 

3. I emailed the ISP the details, and received the following CC'ed email today from them ...

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Hi XXXX,

Please be advised that we have received notice (see below) of alleged infringement on your website.  Please remove or disable access to the alleged infringing material within 48 hours, and provide written notice to us to that effect when completed. 

Failure to eliminate or disable access to such alleged infringing material within such time period could result in suspension or termination of your website. 

Should you have further questions, please contact us.
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NOTICE TO COMPLAINING PARTY:  Please review the above web site after the expiration of the 48 hour notice period, and notify us in the event you determine that the alleged infringing material has not been eliminated or that access to it has not been disabled, and we will take further action. 


I am pretty happy with the results so far.  We will see if the ISP will make good on the threat as I don't expect that "Andrew" will respond (he has shown no inclination to so far).

I will report further developments as they occur.

I hope that this info might be useful to others.  It has certainly been interesting for me to learn about these options.  Much better than going down the legal route, and amazingly in this day and age, it seems like common sense may prevale.

John
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2011, 04:08:02 PM »

Well, I have resolution.  When I checked my email this morning I had a message from Justhost.com waiting for me:

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Because our customer has not removed, nor disabled access to the alleged infringing material within the 48 hours that we had mentioned, we have been forced to suspend such account and website.

A quick visit to http://www.your-gigolo.com/ gives an "account suspended" notice.  Your Gigolo is officially off the web.  Thank you Justhost.  You did a great job, and I really appreciate it.


It's great to have had a clear and decisive result on this issue.  And the best part was that it was very easy.  So for anyone interested here's how to go about a DIY takedown of stolen copyright material:

1. Do an IP address lookup (use http://ip-lookup.net or similar) and look for the host information.  That will be the name of the ISP that hosts the offending website

2. Go to the ISP's website and look for their Terms Of Service document, or Copyright Policy, or similar.  Any reputable ISP should have one.  It will probably include a complaint mechanism.  Justhost.com had a very simple and clear system, that actually works

3. Lodge your complaint with the ISP and keep in touch with them.  They will guide the process from there.

It might be more complicated if the site is hosted on a dedicated server rented from a server farm, but the process would still be the same, you just have to go a little higher to find out who is leasing the equipment and find their policy for complaints.

The important things that I have learned from this are:

1. You don't have to pay someone to have infringing content taken down, you can do it yourself

2. ISP's have a mechanism in place to allow for complaints and their resolution

If anyone need's some assistance with an issue like this, please let me know.  I would be happy to help.


I haven't followed up on the thread that I started about a "male escorts code of conduct", but is seems like this issue is a good candidate for inclusion.  A truly professional Male companion won't steal his peers' work.

John.
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« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2012, 08:34:51 AM »

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John O: It's easy to look at this sort of thing and say that it's not such a big deal, but when you have laboured for days creating a website and put your heart and soul into it, it's disappointing to have someone just take your work and pass it off as their own. 

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John O:  A truly professional Male companion won't steal his peers' work.

This seems to be a never-ending problem. Some people don't seem to realize that it is plagiarism to take someone else's work, and very slightly reword it, but it is. Here's the most recent example I came across.

Original (www.malecourtesan.com, a copyrighted website):

Women who enjoy the companionship of a male courtesan are generally very successful and often:
 
Have busy schedules yet refuse to deny themselves intimacy
Are not interested in, or do not have time for, a committed relationship
Want to experience something new

Enjoy treating themselves and being pampered
Crave tenderness, an element perhaps lacking in their present relationship
Are in the public eye and want to avoid the gossip that arises from casual dating
Thrive on the feeling of empowerment and independence dating a courtesan brings them


The copycat (who shall remain un-named, but he knows who he is)

Women who need someone there when they want, and absent when they don't. (Note: This line comes from another section of the above website)

Women who have very busy schedules but still want to indulge in intimacy.

Women who are not interested in or have the time or patience for a committed relationship.

Women who refuse to enter the dating scene for various reasons, possibly because they are in the public eye and want to avoid gossip.

Women who want to explore or try something new.

Women who enjoy being spoiled and pampered.

Women who crave caring, tenderness, and other elements that are perhaps lacking in a current relationship.

Women who love feeling empowered from the independence dating a companion brings them.





This sort of thing infuriates me. It hurts everyone because anyone who reads both websites becomes confused as to who really wrote the content. They may even think there is some ghost writer out there selling words to various companions. That makes said companions look lazy.

For what it's worth, as John said above, such websites can be taken down. You don't have to steal the entire content of a website to be guilty of this. One section, a page, a paragraph, is enough to be considered copyright violation.  It doesn't have to be word-for-word, either. Changing a couple of words here and there doesn't cut it. The text is still clearly taken from the original, and that's enough.
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« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2012, 01:54:24 PM »

Hi Quinn,

Thanks for posting this.  It's good to keep this issue fresh and in people's minds. 

Here's a question for you: why not name the person, or post a link to their site?  Granted, it took 10 seconds with Google to find his, but most people won't do that.  This is part of the reason that I posted a link to the site that copied my content.  If people think that there won't be any consequences for copying (other than perhaps a takedown notice) then they will consider copying.

If however copying could lead to their reputation (the most important thing for all of us men in this industry) being trashed, then perhaps they will think twice.

Just my opinion of course :-)  and thank you for posting this.

John.
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« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2012, 03:03:22 PM »

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John O: Here's a question for you: why not name the person, or post a link to their site?  

John, I was trying to be nice in hopes he would do something about it himself, but I have spoken to him before about using bits and pieces from www.malecourtesan.com, so he was warned that someone was watching. With your encouragement, here goes:
[website removed by admin at the request of Quinn]

The 'borrowed' material is on the first page, right below the disclaimer.
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« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2012, 03:28:05 PM »

Hi Quinn,

That is fair enough to give him a chance.  If that hasn't change his mind,then the owner of malecourtesan.com needs to take some action.

On a related note, I just clicked through to www.malecourtesan.com and Firefox is reporting that it is a known attach site.  Whoever owns it needs to know that their server has been hacked and the site hijacked to deliver malware or similar.  Not a good look.  I would strongly recommend contacting your webhost.

Regards,
John.
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« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2012, 03:52:53 PM »

The plagiarized material has now been removed.

As for the "Attack Site" report, it just happened yesterday. Armand does know about it and is doing everything to fix the problem. But thanks, John, for the heads up on it.
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